Survivor Live Internet Talk Show with Survivor:  Fiji's Dreamz Herd and Cassandra Franklin

DR:  Dreamz and Cassandra are here.  Places two and... what is it?

Cassandra:  Two and two, tied.  Dead even, same amount of money.

DR:  I'm coming straight to Dreamz.  I said this before, he's selling, I'm not buying the part where you said that you're playing Yau from the first second, you always knew you were going to keep that necklace.  I don't believe it because in your confessional to the camera you're talking, no contestants are around, you're saying, "I'm gonna show my kids this and I'm gonna do this..."  You're still totally saying that you're going to give him that necklace. I'm not buying that from the first minute you were planning to keep it. 

Dreamz:  I also said a lot of other good stuff.  I was trying to get him out before I had to do that.  If I had gave him that immunity idol, they wouldn't have showed that good stuff about me. 

JM:  In my opinion, most people, if they have to break a deal or get voted out, they're going to break the deal. 

DR:  I'm not gonna be one of those people who say don't break the deal.  I have no problem with breaking the deal. 

Dreamz:  Think about it.  If I'm lying anyways I might as well go ahead.  If you're gonna do it, do it big. 

Cassandra:  Dalton, I felt like you do.  I felt like Dreamz really had good intentions.  It was only just before midday that he come to me and said, "Hey, I'm having a second thought.  What do you think?"  I said, "Whatever decision you make, you are gonna have to live with it for the rest of your life."  Dreamz, despite what he says, he has a great heart and I really believe that initially when he accepted that offer, his plans were to give Yau-Man that immunity necklace.

DR:  I agree. 

JM:  They kind of laid into you a little bit at TC. 

Cassandra:  They did.

JM:  Did you feel like you had a chance or do you feel like they were just...

Cassandra:  Oh, no, Dreamz and I...I look at people, I observe people a lot and living in that Moto tribe and looking at the jury was mainly Moto people, I knew I had no chance.  Alex, I'm not surprised that he's not practicing law right now.  It was just ridiculous. 

JM:  It was a little childish. 

DR:  I usually love a beat down at TC.

JM:  But not when they're stopping you in the middle of your sentence. 

Cassandra:  He was saying, "Be quiet,"  and "Shut up." 

DR:  This is like the worst lawyering I've ever seen in my life. 

Cassandra:  Just like I told Anthony, I would have punched Rocky in the back of his neck at TC.

DR:  I think it was odd.  At first, during the game, Alex seemed very calm, cool and collected. 

Cassandra:  I could see through that the entire time.  I knew that they felt a sense of empowerment.  Gary, Dreamz and I, we didn't hold any power in Moto.  Our only hope was to pray and to keep winning. 

DR:  The one I really, really didn't get was Lisi.  You guys had nothing to do with her leaving the game.  Usually people are bitter because you voted them out.  You had nothing to do with her and she's coming at you, asking you to count zeros.  She got very flustered when you answered correctly.  She was like all confused. 

JM:  I just thought that was kind of like cruel.  She was trying to make someone look stupid.  

Dreamz:  I was going to say, "Lisi after all this time, 39 days, you still want to be mean?"  When it comes to winning I didn't really care because when you look on that jury, everybody except Stacy, I was to their demise.  I was part of that.  So I wasn't there to win.  I was far from winning.  You are right, I never had a chance.  I knew it.  Cassandra knew it and everybody else knew it.  My plan was to get as far as possible.  Second place is good enough for me. 

JM:  The farther up you go, the more money you get. 

Cassandra:  Lisi, her website is crazybitch.com.  So, you call it.

JM:  I'm all for really laying into people at TC about questions you want answered but I'm not into making people look stupid. 

Dreamz:  Think about it.  What do her shoes have to do with playing the game?

JM:  Like pick a number questions.  

DR:  Let's get to what everyone was talking about, Dreamz being  confronted with this choice. 

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DR:  Cassandra said as we're watching it, that's genuine.  You are not that good an actor, my friend. 

Dreamz:  I was playing the game 100% but the thing that was getting me, I was almost about to give it to him but then the person that I really am was coming out more and more. 

JM:  When you made the promise you didn't know there was going to be a final three. 

Dreamz:  No, I thought it was two. 

DR:  But they're going to get rid of you the same way. 

Cassandra:  The critical part that was edited out was that the rest of us were part of that strategy.  If we made it Dreamz would have had to give the necklace and we would have had to vote his way so Dreamz would have been out of the game or I may have had to vote myself out. 

Dreamz:  And the tears, it's like sending your son to college.  Everybody cries when they send their son to college.  It's not because your son is going to college.  Who cries because their son is going to college?  It was tears of being with this person for so long and knowing him and then sending him home.  Earl was even in shock but he voted for Yau-Man.  It was over. 

Caller:   Dreamz, I'm gonna call shenanigans on your little strategy saying you planned this from the beginning.  There had to be some point when you thought about reneging on your deal.  "The jury's not going to vote for me after that."  You're on shaky ground with Alex and Mookie, you're gonna renege on a deal.  People you renege on is Yau-Man.  If you reneged on say, Stacy, they're like, eh, she deserved it.  Yau-Man was one of the most beloved characters on the show.  The best option for you back then was to say, "Yau-Man, I respect your decision but I'm not going to take the truck."  After you renege you just come off greedy.

DR:  What he's saying is that it would have been better to just not take the truck to begin with. 

Dreamz:  No, that's all wrong.  I come off greedy?  What are we all here for?  Money, right?  I don't mind people saying to come off greedy.  Matter of fact, I'm gonna give the truck away.  I'm giving the truck to charity. 

JM:  Which is crazy.

Dreamz:  Yes. 

DR:  I don't think that's crazy.

JM:  I think it's a good idea.  It's a nice thing. 

Dreamz:  I'm gonna call it the Ford challenge.  I'm gonna put Ford to the challenge. 

JM:  You're gonna have to check with Ford, though.  See if you can trademark that.

Dreamz:  I'm gonna see if they can match whatever I raise from the truck.  I'm gonna donate it to the charity that helped me when I was growing up.  If I wanted the money I'd keep it.  I don't care about the money. 

DR:  I love that plan except for one thing.  This car might be cursed, people.  This might be a cursed car.  No one that has ever won a car in Survivor history has ever won the game.  This one took two people out, Yau-Man and Dreamz.

Caller:  This is a question for Dreamz, or I should call you Broken Dreamz.  I was crunching numbers while you were making that immunity decision.  My result was, had you bring Earl and Yau-Man to final TC, you actually have a chance for four members to vote for you. 

Dreamz:  When you're in a predicament that I'm in where you aint gonna win anyways.

JM:  You really never know.

Dreamz:  Oh, I know.

DR:  He's not gonna win.

Dreamz:  The viewers see something different than what was actually happening.  I know who liked me.  I know who didn't like me.  I put a lot of people on that jury.  If Earl and Yau-Man's there, if I'm there, too, I'm third.  Earl or Yau-Man is gonna win.  It gives me and Cassandra a chance.  I wasn't going to get rid of Cassandra at all.  I never had that thought in my mind.  I didn't want to get rid of Earl.  So, that's how it went.  That's how it played out.

JM:  There have also been some juries who have respected the play even though they've been played.  You have two juries, one that votes with emotions and one that vote, 'hey you did something wrong to me but you were the better player.'

Dreamz:  They should have voted me out a long time ago.  How many times was I supposed to be voted out?  Tell the truth.  They should have voted me out before the merge.  Alex and them had a chance.  They should have.

JM:  Good thing they didn't.

Cassandra:  There was one chance they could have voted us out before the merge, after that, we were flying. 

DR:  I want to touch on this real briefly.  Coffeegate.  We talked a lot with Stacy and everyone else about it. 

JM:  She said that you said something very mean to her.  I guess that she sounds like a white woman when she talks.  She said that's why she was mad at you.

Dreamz:  Actually it was after the coffeegate.  I was a cheerleader.  I've been around a lot of cheerleader girls.  They all, most of them was white.  When she started getting in cheerleader mode, I'd be like, okay, go ahead and get in white girl mode.  Oh, and that made her mad. 

DR:  Cassandra, you're a somewhat neutral party, what was your take on the whole coffee thing?

Cassandra:  Even before the coffee thing they were treating Gary, Dreamz and I very bad.  There were times they'd be saying, "Cassandra, the dishes are dirty."  We finally got to the point, Dreamz, Gary and I, we were like, "Do, 'em. Why are you telling us." 

JM:  Why do you think they did that to you guys?

Cassandra:  Power. They had tempers. 

DR:  Very, very short-sighted. 

Probst's Thoughts:   Dreamz.  Oh, man, what do you say to Dreamz?  Cause no matter what you say he's going to say something back.  He's gonna tell you that you're wrong or you don't get it or you don't understand.  I talked more about Dreamz during this season than probably any other survivor in the history of the show.  If we can have somebody like Dreamz on every season, we would say right now, we'll take him.  We don't even have to see him or her.  We'll take him.  That's how compelling you were, Dreamz, and how fun you were.  I know right now you are doing one thing, smiling. 

Cassandra, with the killer smile and the lethal game play.  You were very underrated out there.  I definitely did not know what to make of you when you first came on the show.  I wasn't sure how well you'd do.  I was very impressed when I saw how you were going to play the game.  To the degree that it worked or didn't work, I won't comment on.  I hope you had fun out there because I'm not sure at times whether you were having fun or not.   I'm not sure if that was you playing the game or what but it was a pleasure having you on the show. 

JM:  He says you were underrated and maybe that goes back to some of the challenges.  We see you in the challenges and they always kind of show you over here...

DR:  It was ugly on the challenges. 

JM:  Was that like strategy or did you just not have it?

Cassandra:  Well, mainly, I can't swim.  So any challenge that involved water, I respected the water, so if I had the option to opt out, trust me, I felt that was the safest option.  All of the physical challenges, I have strong legs.  I was able to pull my weight in that part.  The people question and answer, that was an easy challenge for me, the memory one. 

DR:  What was the excuse on the digging?

Cassandra:  At that point I had a nail infection.  The entire time I'm digging, looking at the poles in the middle of the water, scared to death.  

DR:  These are probably the two brightest smiles we've ever had on the show.  Get these two together, it's unbelievable.  

Caller:  Jenna, this question is about Dreamz.  I'd like to know what you think of his strategy.  What would you do if Dreamz was in the game on your season?

JM:  I don't know how it would have played out.  Probably I would have voted you out because I would have had to vote everyone out to win.  Why I like Dreamz is because I like people who play the game the way it's meant to be played, which is ugly and cutthroat and do everything that you have to do to win. I was kind of in the same position.  I voted out my good friend Rob because I knew I could beat Matthew.  I just kind of appreciate people who are ballsy enough to do the things that no one else wants to do. 

DR:  He was very naive, especially when the game began. 

JM:  That car thing was huge.  If it's you or breaking a promise to someone you know for 30 days I'm breaking the promise. 

DR:  Absolutely, no question. 

JM:  I'm standing by my Dreamz. 

Dreamz:  Not that I was naive in the beginning. I knew exactly what was going on.  I said, "We don't have to be snakes yet."  Later on I said to myself, "When I put on my snakeskin boots I'm gonna show 'em strategy."  All this time everybody is still lying and being snakes.  I started lying and got on my lying streak.  Everybody is like, "He's the worst person in the world." 

JM:  The same rules don't apply on Survivor as they do in life.

Caller:  What is the difference between the money in fourth place and the money in third place? 

Dreamz:  A couple of thousand. 

JM:  It's a sliding scale.  They get the same amount since they were technically both second.  I don't know if we can say that but it's a decent amount of money.  Trust me. 

Cassandra:  It's a nice little savings plan.

JM:  It's very worth it for the experience. 

Dreamz:  I'll stab two more people in the back if I have to. 

Caller:  Dreamz, I was rooting for you from the very moment you stepped on that island.  You are my brother.  When you were going to turn over the idol you said that you wanted your sons to know about keeping your word.  I'm wondering, how did your sons react to that?

Dreamz:  My son is only two, he hasn't reacted.  He don't know yet but I'll explain to him one day.  I'll let him know that it's just a game and there's a separation.  He knows that I would never go back on my word in real life.  Like Yau-Man would never look through Sylvia's bag in real life.  Alex and Mookie would never look through Yau-Man's bag in real life.  It's a separation of character. 

JM:  Different rules apply in Survivor.  You're not going to do the stuff you do on Survivor in real life.  You can like, vote out your friends. 

Cassandra:  Johnny Fairplay buried his grandmother. 

JM:  Johnny Fairplay actually might do some of that stuff in real life.  If you go in knowing that this is a game the rules don't apply, it's much easier for you. 

DR:  Cassandra and Dreamz, thank you. Game well played.