Survivor Live Internet Talk Show with Parvati Shallow
Episode 13 Survivor: Cook Islands  Cast-Off 
Segment 1 Transcript

DR:  Parvati, how's it going?

Parvati:  Hi, guys.

DR:  Cleans up nice.

Parvati: You know, honestly, I think I was probably the cleanest survivor in the history of Survivor.  I got the bathtub and I got the spa reward and the parents reward when we jumped in the pool. 

DR:  How was it getting all that mud off?

Parvati:  I stayed in that shower for like 2 and a half hours.  I washed my hair maybe six times.

DR:  So Parvati we've been talking about it...obviously you were playing the social game.  My question is, you were playing it and playing it well and had people like Nate...I'm not going to say wrapped around your finger but people liked you.  But then did you play it a little too much in the end where you saw people like Yul getting nervous that maybe your feminine whiles were working on Ozzy a little bit?

Parvati:  You know, that's so funny to me because I really wasn't trying to flirt with Ozzy to get him on my side.  I was merely just talking to him as a friend and I think I was approaching Ozzy more because I figured Ozzy would be the one who would be easier to pull over to my side.  If anyone was going to flip it would be Ozzy.  Yul and Becky and Sundra were tight and they were not going anywhere.  I was naturally making more of an attempt to create a relationship with Ozzy and I think Yul saw that and Yul was like, "why isn't she talking to me like that." 

JM:  It's obvious that Ozzy, and he should know this too, he's kind of on the lower end of that four. 

Parvati:  Right.

JM:  Of that "foursome".

Parvati:  Haha.  Touché. 

JM:  Whenever you guys were on the reward Sundra and Becky said something about how they were happy that Yul got to go on the reward.  They didn't mention anything about Ozzy.  That was sort of telling of them thinking that they've maybe had enough of Ozzy.

Parvati:  True.  They were very threatened by Ozzy and if Ozzy hadn't won immunity who knows, he would have been gone.

JM:  If you've got the chance, you've got to get rid of that kid.

Parvati:  We tried so many times.  When they voted Candice out, when Adam won immunity and Ozzy didn't, we were like, "you gotta vote for Ozzy now." 

JM:  That was their chance.

Parvati:  And they missed it.  He's tough.

JM:  He's like, not human.

Parvati:  He was made for this game.  He scales coconut trees and swims underwater for like ten minutes straight. 

JM:  He's kind of a little cocky if you ask me.

Parvati:  Definitely.

JM:  He's a little bit of a show off. 

Parvati:  I think, if he's got it.

DR:  You gotta flaunt it.

JM:  It seems to me that they might have lost their chance.  I don't think this kid is going to lose anything from here on out.

Caller:  Were there any other scenes that were not shown last night of you and Adam trying to get Ozzy to switch sides?  And did you all try to use the jury votes as leverage for getting him to switch?

Parvati:  We didn't try to use jury votes to get Ozzy to switch.  We kind of tried to appeal more that his alliance was going to vote him off.  We worked a lot harder than what they showed last night.  I tried to work Ozzy.  I talked myself in circles.  Telling him that he was the next to go if he lost a challenge. 

JM:  Did you think he was actually considering it?

Parvati:  Ozzy acted like he was going to consider it.  Ozzy and I formed a kind of tight bond when we were out there.  I knew that Ozzy and Nate were very close.  Nate and I were close so I was like, if Nate likes this guy there's got to be something to it.  I tried so hard to get to know Ozzy and get him to switch over. 

DR:  You're trying to sell something that you know if you were in his position you would never buy.  It's going to be 3 on 3 and Yul has the idol.  Any rational person wouldn't buy that. 

JM:  You also see on the jury last night when Ozzy was talking - Nate kind of laughed at him like a friend.  So it looks to me almost like there's a separation between Yul and Ozzy.  It looks like the jury, when Ozzy is talking, their reactions are kind of like, ohhh Ozzy, he's such a cool guy.  But meanwhile when Yul is talking everyone is like [deadpan face].

DR:  Let's talk about the big hat thing.  Was this blown completely out of proportion? 

Parvati:  No, it was a big deal.  Everybody knew that Yul was playing for the jury.

JM:  That guy is overplaying himself.

DR:  Time out.  Time out here. 

JM:  I wanna Yul bash.

DR:  The hat was put there before Jonathan came in.

JM:  He put it there.

Parvati:  Yul came in, placed the hat on the bench where Jonathan was going to sit and sat down.

DR:  But if Jeff Probst hadn't brought attention to it would Jonathan have even known that Yul brought him the hat?  Would anyone on the jury have known?

JM:  This might be where Yul is starting to overplay himself.  Notice how everyone thinks they have to go to Yul to prove their worth in the game, to justify a reason to stay?  For me, as a player, if I left the game, I think he's overplaying himself.  He's playing so outright.  He's so honest, I just want him to shut his trap for awhile.  Keep it to himself. 

DR:  When you guys are hammering him on the hat, why doesn't he just say, "He asked me to bring him the hat, so I brought him the hat." 

JM:  He's so honest, it's almost to his detriment.  He told Becky earlier that he's worried what the jury is thinking. To you guys when he brought the hat, was everyone like, "oh here Yul goes again."

Parvati:  Pretty much.  Yul was so adamant about playing a game with integrity and being honest and being upfront.  I'm like, "Yul, it's Survivor.  You have to go behind each other's backs.  You have to do that.  You know you're going to have to do that soon enough.  So why are you trying to play both sides of the fence and say that you're so honest and upright when you can't be like that."

JM:  I want to erase the word integrity from anyone who gets...because it's not the same thing.  Integrity at home is not the same thing as integrity on Survivor. 

Caller:  This is the best season since All Stars, hands down. 

DR:  I would say Palau would be just above it. 

Caller:  After watching the season, has your opinion about Jonathan changed at all?  When you said you wanted to throw up in his face I almost threw up from laughing.  That was hysterical.  Has your opinion changed after watching the type of game that he has played?

Parvati:  Umm, yeah, well...

DR:  This goes along with what we were talking about, integrity.  Why was what Jonathan was doing, what makes him a rat?  If you're playing poker and you bluff no one gets mad.  So why is everyone so mad at him?

Parvati:  Jonathan was playing the game with the cards that he was dealt.  We had a tight alliance from day one when we landed on that beach with Raro.  Me, Jonathan and Candice.  So when Jonathan came back after the mutiny I took him in and I like held him over Brad and Jenny.  And we voted those people out instead of Jonathan.  I was one of the main forces who was behind him all the way.  So when he switched on me it was like a personal stab in the heart.  I was emotional that night and I unleashed on him a little bit.  I'm one of those people who, if you hurt me, I'm going to say it to your face and let it out, get over it, and move on.  I don't hold a grudge against Jonathan whatsoever.  He played the game the way he thought he had to play it to win.  So in this game everything changes day to day.  You can't rely on a certain strategy all the time that's going to work.  I respect him completely as a person.

DR:  Let's check out the clip of the Reward Challenge.

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JM:  These challenges on this season are so good.

DR:  Before it started I said a woman is definitely going to win this and then Ozzy goes and kills all you guys. 

Parvati:  Ozzy, I'm telling you, is like super competitor. 

JM:  What about Sundra and Becky?  It never looks like they're that determined on winning.  Is it like, "well we're with Yul."  Did you feel like they didn't try because they were safe?

Parvati:  Yeah.  Absolutely.  I don't know really how tough they are as competitors.  I only competed with them individually for a few challenges.  It seemed to me that they were never really that diehard because they knew that they were in the majority.  So you feel comfortable.  You don't feel like you have to try as hard. 

JM:  But then also, we have jury members watching you. 

Parvati: That's true and then they'll say that you're riding coattails. 

JM:  Like Katie from Palau who got slammed.

DR:  On the flip side, shouldn't Ozzy...this is a reward challenge... shouldn't you be toning it down.  Becky got furious.  An easy way to eliminate those feelings, don't do well in the challenges. 

Parvati:  Ozzy would never throw something that he knows he can win.

DR:  Ahhh, wait a minute.  We saw him throw a challenge in week two!

Parvati:  If he is going to get a reward out of it he will never throw it. 

DR:  He's a challenge thrower. 

Parvati:  To get rid of Billy. 

JM:  I think he should be throwing the rewards. 

DR:  I agree.

JM:  Because I think the rewards a lot of times hurt you because people get very bitter unless you bring something back.  Plus it's time away from camp.

Parvati:  And I'm there on the reward with their two guys. 

JM: Which I thought was perfect because they seemed to be the two who were kind of running the show. 

DR:  It probably would have been better to have one of them and not both of them there. 

JM:  But Yul got naked which was really surprising to me. 

Parvati:  They were in there naked first.  I don't know why I'm getting it all.

JM:  I thought maybe with two naked men, they'd be like, "oh whatever you say."

DR:  We're going to take a quick break.

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