Survivor Live Internet Talk Show with Jessica Smith
Episode 7 Survivor: Cook Islands  Cast-Off 
Segment 2 Transcript

JM = Jenna Morasca     DR = Dalton Ross     Flica = Jessica Smith

DR:  Jessica, let's talk again about the whole sort of Survivor experience.  You get out there, was there ever a point where you sort of hit a wall and said, "I can't take this anymore."  I remember before the show Mark Burnett gave you guys a little pep talk.  He said, "There's going to be a point where you're going to hit it and you're going to say, 'Why am I out here. Why am I doing this'.  And you gotta fight past that."  Did you ever hit that point or not?

Flica:  Umm, not really.  I don't let people get to me.  So I just kind of did my own thing and enjoyed being out there.  So it wasn't ever a breaking point for me.  I thought I was still an asset to my tribe and that might keep me around.  And I didn't find myself threatening to where if they took me to the next merge that they wouldn't feel too threatened by anything that I did that they would think of me as a fierce competitor or anything.  Like you!   People where totally threatened by him, right?

TD:  Come on, I'm not a threatening guy!

DR:  Well, there is a little parallel here between you two.  I remember talking to you before the game started and you said you wanted to bring a little bit of that roller blading vibe...

Flica:  Roller derby.

DR:  Roller derby, correction.  Roller derby vibe into the game and stuff.  We did see that one Reward Challenge.  You started talking a little smack in this challenge here. 

Flica:  It was just being silly.  I was just having fun and it wasn't supposed to be serious. I knew I was gonna drop it anyway. 

DR:  Do you think that the other team took it seriously, though?

Flica:  No, would you take something like that seriously, come on now.

TD:  People talked smack to me all the time and it was all about focusing on what you were doing. 

Flica:  It was fun, silly fun, totally entertaining.

TD:  I thought you were going to hold on.  I had no idea you were going to drop.  I thought you were holding it. 

Flica:  I let my arm out and I wish I didn't, it slipped where my fingers were just barely holding on.

TD:  There's a lot of these challenges where if you can find the right technique it really makes it easy.

Flica:  Parvati came up and pulled the whole thing down with her body weight.  I thought they should have called the game just because that was illegal. 

DR:  Let's go straight to the Immunity Challenge clip.  I want to talk about who was doing what.  It looked like it was a blowout and we had one of those come from behind victories and it was at Jessica's expense.

<video clip of Immunity Challenge>

DR:  I was a little uncomfortable watching Nate go down the zipline.  Ozzy is being compared to a monkey and a dolphin and everything in the animal kingdoms.  But let's get to what happened with the puzzle.  You guys had a sizeable lead going into that puzzle.  What went wrong?

Flica:  I was a little annoyed actually.  I thought they did it on purpose, honestly. 

DR:  Did what on purpose?  Do you think they lost on purpose?

Flica:  Yeah.  That was my feeling about it because I kept handing them the puzzle pieces that go with the picture.  They kept handing them back to me.  Becky and Sundra just like cleared the whole puzzle board in order to make room to put the puzzle pieces.  I just didn't understand what they were doing.

DR:  Why was Nate giving Brad such a hard time during the reward challenge for doing the puzzle instead of swimming and then in the immunity challenge we see Adam doing the exact same thing?  Puzzle, not swimming. 

TD:  I noticed that Adam didn't do too much on the puzzle.  He opened the bags maybe and handed it to them.  Jenny took that over and it was obvious you guys had a lead.  You were moving right along and all of a sudden Jenny was just like, it was like this karma thing came to her and the puzzle went out. 

Flica:  I came back to the camp and I go, "I got really frustrated with you girls because you kept handing me back pieces that went together.  They were like, "Really?  We didn't notice." 

DR:  We'll have to get to the bottom of that when we have some of those ladies on.  I'd be surprised if they were legitimately trying to throw a challenge.  Unless Ozzy got in their heads a little bit.

Caller:  Terry, man, the guy who shoulda won last season. 

TD:  Thank you, thanks.

Caller:  I gotta say, Flica, I love you a lot.  It's very rare when you see somebody on the show who's honestly a decent person. You're a really sweet person.  Right before Tribal Council, did you have any idea that you were going?  When you got voted off, you seemed like you knew it was going to happen. 

Flica:  I was kind of like instigating them.  That's where the whole "Flica's like an annoying mosquito that won't go away"...it's cause I was confronting people about what their decision might be.  And hoping that we can just put it all out on the table and talk about it.  It just ended up that nobody would be honest with me.  Nobody wanted to say, "Flica, you're the one that's going home, today."  I would have had a lot more respect for my camp.  Especially the ones that I thought were my friends if they would have just told me. 

DR:  The thing about Survivor, though, is that, there have been times when people have said, "I'm going to do that decent thing.  I'm going to go up to this person and let them know that they are going."  Then that person says, "If I'm going then I'm going to flip it."  Then they go and talk to people and they flip it.  You can't take that risk.  When you were trying to work those people did they say, "Yeah, let's get rid of Jonathan."  Or did they say, "I'm not sure?"  Did they straight up lie to you?

Flica:  It was probably divided.  Some where like, "Oh, I don't know".  Which usually means, "We're booting you off."  But other people were like, "Jonathan is really shady.  Nobody trusts him."  So I thought that it could be Jonathan. 

TD:  Right.  I thought it was Jonathan.  I thought he was going.  Even though he's in that alliance with Candice and Yul and Becky, I just thought, everyone has a little bit of not nice things to say about him or just that he's playing the game a little too hard and wearing the game on his sleeve openly.  I'm surprised to see you here. 

DR:  Mark Burnett gets Terry Dietz on the pump fake with the Jonathan thing.  I love it.

Caller:  My question has to do with the double tribal council a couple of weeks ago.  Why did the Aitu tribe pick Nate?  Last night we noticed he didn't do anything in the Reward.  Why did he sit out?

DR:  Was that a social reason you guys picked Nate?  Was it a strategic reason when you guys kidnapped him?

Flica:  It was because we knew that he was a strong person in their tribe.  He was bragging about the octopus when we went to the other island, about how they're eating good.  We didn't realize that we were kind of spying on them by going over there when we went.  We figured out that he's a pretty strong person and he was well liked.  Not like Adam who was aggressive.  I didn't want Adam.  Some people wanted Adam but I didn't want Adam to reconnect with...

DR:  Was that Candice that was saying that?

Flica:   And Jonathan.

DR:  Ohhhhh.

Flica:  I didn't want them to all reconnect and do their little thing again. 

TD:  When you decided not to let Nate compete in that challenge was it because you thought maybe he would try to throw the challenge so his team would win?

Flica:  Yeah, that challenge was brutal.  I had to sit out one so I was just watching.  I couldn't help but root Adam on because of what happened with what's her name, the hairdresser girl with her top off and that whole bit was just really dramatic to all...

DR:  Rebecca, you mean?

Flica:  That was really hardcore being there and watching that happening.  She couldn't even walk.  She was on the other side of the beach and had to walk back up the beach with her top up here.  I was like, oh my gosh.  And then Adam had to keep swimming out there like three different times. 

DR:  So you actually started rooting for the other tribe?

Flica:  I couldn't help it.  I felt bad for Adam. 

TD:  Parvati showed a lot in that challenge.  She and Adam were the ones swimming.  She may be the flirty girl but like you, you and the roller blades, she's kickboxing. 

Flica:  I want to see her box.  I'm ready to set up a boxing match.

DR:  You and Parvati in a ring boxing on roller skates.

Flica:  Wouldn't that be hot?

Caller:  Flica, you have a Jennifer Tilly/Cindy Lauper thing going on.

Flica:  Thank you, I admire both of those lovely ladies.

Caller:  With all your uniqueness and talent, what's up with you now?

Flica:  I'm trying to get a website off the ground.  It's flicaflame.com.  I'm still doing fire dancing on stilts and fun stuff like that.  I'm designing costumes for a costume shop in Chico right now.  I'm hoping to get responses from people for challenge ideas.  I'll videotape it and put it on youtube.  I already went to the boxing ring, so you can check that out.  I'm going to get tips on how to be a boxer.  So I can take out Parvati.  I think people would love to see that.

<Probst's Thoughts>

Jeff Probst:  Jessica.  One of the most colorful and likeable people on the show this season.  Frustrating to some people because she wasn't as into the game as a lot of other people were.  Jessica really approached it as an adventure.  "I'll decide who I'm voting on when I'm ready to."  That frustrates people who are trying to get their plan together.  Jessica was one of these people this season who said, "I'll make my decision based on what I feel, not on what you're telling me to do."  She wasn't going to be bullied.  And probably will be most known for early on, when they had all these chickens, lifting up that box.  It was a great moment and I'm so glad we had a camera rolling when it happened.  Jessica, you were a delight...Flica.  Hope to see you on it again maybe in another incarnation.

Flica:  Jonathan should have just told me that he put those chickens under the box.  What was up with that?  He totally set me up.  Candice let out the first chicken and they didn't show it.  We had three chickens.  They said we only had two but we had three and she let the first one go.  Somewhere in between there they put the chickens under the box when I wasn't paying attention.  Jonathan was talking and he didn't tell me when I went to pick up the box and say that it would make a great table. 

TD:  And you weren't able to catch them once they were gone?

Flica:  I don't think anyone on that island ever caught any of the chickens.  They ended up connecting with a whole like crew of chickens that were on the island.  They would come around and bother us all the time, wake us up at four in the morning.  But yeah, the hens found a couple homies.  There were like 12 chickens and nobody got a single one on that whole island.   But on our island we had like one left when I was there.  We'd gotten all the chickens. 

DR:  You were a vegetarian pretty much until the time you left for the Cook Islands.

Flica:  And I've been eating chicken ever since!  It was definitely a life changing experience.

DR:  We're going to take one more quick break.

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